Well, Guys... It is time for me to surrender.

May 08, 2010,08:23 AM
 

I had a lot of difficulties to join the ranks when it comes to the Speedie...

The major problem is that, in France, everybody considers the Speedie as a summary of Horology...

So, if you don't have your Speedie, you know nothing, you are nothing, and you don't understand nothing to watches.

As a rebel I am, I swore I will never get this watch, as I didn't want to look like these guys.

But hey, only fools never change their mind...

smile

So, while I am tempting to build a small collection of Omega Watches, I fell on this early catalogue from the mid 50ies, presenting the CK 2913, along with the CK 2914 and 2915...The Holy Trinity.

" Holy Trinity "... What a concept!

I first began with a SM 300 from ...( Sorry, Graham... ) '64.

Then, the same Graham made me discover the charm of the SM 300 with the thin bezel.

So, I got, some months ago, a nice 14 755.

SM 300 from '64, 14755 from '62...2 watches were still missing: The Speedie, and the Railmaster.

The Railmaster is still in my wish list, a nice CK 2913 would make my day.

The Speedie?

Damn, there is not only one, but so many!

Which one to get?

Straight lugs, or assymetrical case?

I decided to go as close as possible to the roots, so straight lugs for me.

But which one, as there are still so many!

By order of preference: The CK 2915, or more precisely one of them, as there were, once again, several versions.

The 2998 is a more reasonnable compromise, but, like the for the CK 2915, it seems that I missed the train, and that the prices reached the sky...

So, what else?

Finally, I found it.

A 105 003.



From what I understood, this is a kind of Transitional Speedmaster, which was available for a very few years ( 1963 / 1966 ).

Still straight lugs, this reference borrowed the 2998 dial ( if I got it correctly ), no " professional " on the dial, a nice patina, and let's not forget the " motor ", the famous 321, which was housed in prestigious watches such as the Vacheron Constantin or the Patek Philippe Chronos.

smile

Cherry on the cake, it came on its original bracelet!



Looking forward to complete my " Holy Trinity ", I can proudly wear my Patek Vacheron Speedie...

smile



Best ot All,

Nicolas

This message has been edited by amanico on 2010-05-08 08:25:33


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Welcome...

 
 By: mac_omega : May 8th, 2010-08:37
Hi Nicolas, welcome to the club! I did surrender some months ago - I know your thoughts and feelings as I went through all that... BTW it is a very nice catch - congrats and enjoy! You will find a nice Railmaster too - you could  take the little later 5 d... 

Thanks a lot, Erich.

 
 By: amanico : May 8th, 2010-09:00
I'm still badly hunting the Railmaster, but it is getting closer and closer... As for the Speedie, it was funny to find which would be MINE. I'm still discovering it, but I don't have a bad feeling when on the wrist! Best, Nicolas

Nice piece

 
 By: MSNWatch : May 8th, 2010-08:38
A change to the correct hands with appropriate re-luming and it will look even nicer.

Thanks, MSN Watch...

 
 By: amanico : May 8th, 2010-08:55
And I thought they were correct! I saw the problem about the lume, not the issue with the hands... Damn, I'm not made for these Speedies! Best, and thanks, my friend. Will try to find an solution. Nicolas

welcome to the Speedie club, Nice

 
 By: FanFrancisco : May 8th, 2010-08:58
... haha, Nico you are with us now. honestly, Speedie has some very special charm in it, not sure how to say it correctly, but after i got my one, once you are wearing it on the wrist, you feel its significant history with you on the walk. because of this... 

Thanks a lot, Stefan

 
 By: amanico : May 8th, 2010-09:11
I'm on the " discovery " period, though... I love a lot this case, I would have preferred the hands of the 2998, or better, those of the CK 2915 , but hey, that's a promising beginning... Best, my friend. Nicolas

Wow congrats !

 
 By: DrStrong : May 8th, 2010-09:37
you have finally come to it...and what a beautiful example !...  

Thanks for your kind words, Jeff.

 
 By: amanico : May 8th, 2010-09:41
I hesitated a lot with some brown dialed alternatives, though... But you know what I mean... Best, Nicolas

I know that feeling ! LOL [nt]

 
 By: DrStrong : May 9th, 2010-06:22
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Superb!

 
 By: AlexSunrise : May 8th, 2010-10:22
Hi, Nico, Congratulations on your beautiful Speedie! I am glad you changed your mind on this one, not because of what people´s perception is, but because it is just a super strong watch with lots of character, and most importantly, that looks great on you... 

What, Alex?

 
 By: amanico : May 8th, 2010-14:18
You don't own one, yet? Muchas gracias, Amigo. I wish we'll be able to drink these Tequila Glasses soon! Best, Nicolas

I do own one, Nico,

 
 By: AlexSunrise : May 10th, 2010-09:57
but mine does not have the pedigree yours has, as mine is one of the reduced versions which were marketed back in the day with the help of Michael Schumacher. It is a nice specimen, but somehow I now feel the need to move up in the Speedie lineup, and a 1...  

Wow, Alejandro

 
 By: amanico : May 10th, 2010-13:19
Didn't know this one, Hermano...But a yellow one... For sure, one day, you will find yours. It took me a long time before getting mine, I'm sure you can do faster. Best, Nicolas

Graham got to you in the end....

 
 By: Andy : May 8th, 2010-10:25
I will probably give in this year too as nothing else takes my fancy at the moment and I have promised myself one for years. Looks like you found a fantastic example in great condition and of course the magic movement inside. Wear in the best of health my... 

Ha Ha Gotcha!!!!!

 
 By: G99 : May 8th, 2010-11:58
a 105.003. nice one my friend. same as the first 64 i bought. shame about the hands, but the patina on the lume is superb. the bezel is good as well. you may be able to get a set of hands for it and even have them patinated to look older.also a great orig...  

Well, Graham, it is sometimes good to feel like a Newbie.

 
 By: amanico : May 8th, 2010-14:14
Thanks for your nice words, my friend. I now will have to hunt a set of correct hands. Damn, these Speedies will never let me in peace. Best, my friend. Nicolas

Hell, NO! :)

 
 By: amanico : May 8th, 2010-23:33
Still have too many other watches in my wish list... Well, I need a suitcase, but not for Speedies. Best, Nicolas

LOL, Merci; Patrice.

 
 By: amanico : May 8th, 2010-14:11

It's not surrender, Nico . . .

 
 By: Dr No : May 8th, 2010-14:29
. . . rather more like fate ;-) . . .

I saw it coming ...

 
 By: bimbeano : May 8th, 2010-15:00
... these last weeks ... .... and i knew it wasn't going to be a 'simple' Speedy. The fact that it still has the original bracelet makes it really worth the search Nicolas. I'm very glad you finally joined the club, inevitably you'll have to search for a ...  

I knew I could count on you, Filip.

 
 By: amanico : May 8th, 2010-15:05
Yes, this one is not too bad...I will just have to solve the hands issue. Now, the hunt goes on, for the Railmaster. When I think I passed on a gorgeous one last year... Best, my friend, and don't drink too much, or you will trade your Speedie for my Sona... 

Very nice to have developed a concise collection

 
 By: mrsnak : May 8th, 2010-16:01
The ever-present gallery of vintage Omega cheerleaders(i.e. enablers) notwithstanding ;-) Fantastic watch and even better that you can be so focused on what you want. Congratulations!

Wowwwwwww

 
 By: Miguel V : May 8th, 2010-16:33
Certainly nice!........Congratulations for it!

Gracias, Miguel.

 
 By: amanico : May 8th, 2010-22:22

Nice addition Nic

 
 By: gazoz : May 8th, 2010-17:10
congrats to you looks like a beauty

WISdom syndrome

 
 By: Quan : May 8th, 2010-18:45
nice catch...congrats my friend .... luckily down here we don't have this "rule" ... LOL HAGWE

Superb catch Nicolas...

 
 By: RJW : May 8th, 2010-20:23
More and more I find myself considering the purchase of a vintage Omega. Maybe even one from my birth year... 1964. Who knows? Regards, Richard.

'64, Richard?

 
 By: amanico : May 8th, 2010-22:19
You'll easily find some watches from this year ( JLC, Omega, Rolex, for example ). I already have one Omega from '64: My first SM 300, the one with the large bezel. I tried to double it with the Speedie, but this last one is from ...'65. Best, and thanks ... 

ah Richard, another purist from...

 
 By: G99 : May 9th, 2010-02:14
ah Richard, another purist from '64. there are a lot of us so there must have been many dark and cold nights in the winter of '63 :-0 if your looking for a '64 Omega it will be difficult as i've made it my task to buy them all :-) all joking aside, you ha... 

Thanks Graham

 
 By: RJW : May 9th, 2010-02:29
That information is a big help and a great gee up to get one before you completely own the market. Regards, Richard.

Some Extra Pics

 
 By: amanico : May 9th, 2010-03:39
Still learning... Best, Nicolas...  

Huge congrats, Hermano!

 
 By: E.J. : May 9th, 2010-03:56
There is not any watch far from your hands! A great adquisition, enjoy it, hermano! Best Emilio

Actually, Emilio...

 
 By: amanico : May 9th, 2010-04:14
There are still so many out of my hands... And some heavy one, among them. But it wouldn't be funny if I had them all. Best, Hermano, and thanks for your words of encouragements. Nicolas

Very nice

 
 By: nacho217 : May 10th, 2010-02:02
Very nice , congratulations and wear in health. Regards

Muchisimas gracias, Nacho. [nt]

 
 By: amanico : May 11th, 2010-13:25
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Congratulations!!!...

 
 By: Le Chiffre : May 9th, 2010-08:15
What a wonderful and full of history piece you got! wear it in the best of health and success ! I am a crazy guy for Speedmasters and recentely I add to my collection an almost NOS 321 Speedmaster is a 145.012 - 67...according to John Diethleman a former ... 

Opppss!!! Sorry I forget the image...

 
 By: Le Chiffre : May 9th, 2010-08:19
What a wonderful and full of history piece you got! wear it in the best of health and success ! I am a crazy guy for Speedmasters and recentely I add to my collection an almost NOS 321 Speedmaster is a 145.012 - 67...according to John Diethleman a former ...  

Back to the moon

 
 By: hans_jorgen_1968 : May 9th, 2010-13:35
Hi Monster Really nice 145.012 67. On the comment "what has been worn on the moon" must I say,I have not come across a 100% statemant like yours: "..at Apollo 11, one Speedmaster 105.003 was used by Buzz Aldrin, one Speedmaster 105.012 was used by Neil Ar... 

its nice to know that...

 
 By: G99 : May 10th, 2010-01:09
its nice to know that i own both of the models that landed on the moon and therefore the model to first get covered in moondust. all the others are mere charades :-)))) best Graham

You are d*** right :-) [nt]

 
 By: hans_jorgen_1968 : May 10th, 2010-02:59
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Hi Hans

 
 By: Le Chiffre : May 10th, 2010-10:38

Hi Monster :-) [nt]

 
 By: hans_jorgen_1968 : May 10th, 2010-11:45
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ooo

 
 By: Le Chiffre : May 10th, 2010-17:03
Hi Hans, It was weird that my previous message was in blank... I was doing more investigations and after all of this I am agree with you, that there are not real 100% acuraccy statements and I was little enthusiastic to post the past information, I want t... 

So, Monster, you were wrong with the 105 003?

 
 By: amanico : May 10th, 2010-22:22
You're a bad bad Monster.... Best, Nicolas

Hi Nicolas!

 
 By: Le Chiffre : May 11th, 2010-06:19
Yes, I was like a bad Monster at all, but I have the best of my intention to post what I believe in that moment was the true...I offer my sincere apologizes for this bad step from my side and I learned something great with Hans Jorgen, that in every new p... 

:-)

 
 By: hans_jorgen_1968 : May 11th, 2010-03:42
Hi Monster No apologizes needed I am just a dane searching for the truth I have on another forum seen an post from Chuck Maddox refering to an email from a watchfriend who knew Buzz Aldrin personally: "...Buzz told me that, as far as he knows, he wore the...  

Hi Hans!

 
 By: Le Chiffre : May 11th, 2010-06:53
This is great info!! thank you for all. My very best regards! Monster

muchas gracias a mi amigo relojes ..

 
 By: hans_jorgen_1968 : May 11th, 2010-12:27
Thank you Monster ...To my knowledge, you are the best Monster around here Cheers, and talk to you soon Hans This message has been edited by hans_jorgen_1968 on 2010-05-11 12:28:04 This message has been edited by hans_jorgen_1968 on 2010-05-11 12:38:30

Gracias Amigo Hans!!

 
 By: Le Chiffre : May 11th, 2010-13:26
Talk soon! All my best Monster

Wow, thanks a lot for this nice piece of History, Karloff!

 
 By: amanico : May 9th, 2010-22:51
So, I'm a kind of Buzz Aldrin? Once again, thanks a lot for your input, and congrats on your " New " Speedie! Didn't know that this Ref used a 321... Best, Nicolas

Finally

 
 By: hans_jorgen_1968 : May 9th, 2010-13:38
...I knew it, one day you would surrender and go for one And than such a nice specimen (though, I will not mention the hands... ) Best my friend Cheers Hans Mine is a Speedmaster ST145.022 from 1968. The best vintage year around here...! This message has ...  

Thanks a lot, Hans....

 
 By: amanico : May 9th, 2010-22:48
The good thing, with the Speedie, is that everyone can find HIS Reference. Its richness is awesome, as well as its History. I hestitated a lot with a brown dialed SDppeide like yours, or like the 2998.... But I'm happy with mine, as it is ...Well, except ... 

I am looking for my second Speedie... :-) [nt]

 
 By: hans_jorgen_1968 : May 10th, 2010-03:00
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Nicolas its not a WAR !! welcome aboard !!

 
 By: Bill Sohne : May 9th, 2010-14:54
Well Hello Nicolas !! Welcome to the club they call Omega. Not to worry we will keep it a secret , your love of Speedys and all things Omega... hahahahahaha I remember living in Paris for about 6 months and walking the markets early Sunday mornings about ...  

Well, Bill

 
 By: amanico : May 9th, 2010-22:58
I guess I' more in love wtih Diving watches than with these old Chronos.... I couldn't resist for example, to 2 Seamaster 300.... While in the same time I resisted a long time to Speedies. Some years ago, I was at a delaer, and for the first time of my li... 

Well done.

 
 By: vernon : May 10th, 2010-00:25
You could'nt really not have one in your collection - so I hope you love your sweet new companion. Vernon.

congrats nicolas very nice nd gd luck for railmaster...here is a old pict of....

 
 By: manish : May 10th, 2010-01:20
my speedmasters....sorry for horrible picture. regrds from india. manish...  

Wow, 6 !!!

 
 By: amanico : May 10th, 2010-02:08
What a collection, Manish! Respect. Best, Nicolas

We'll see, Vernon, what Future will bring...

 
 By: amanico : May 10th, 2010-02:11
For the moment, I'm happy with this one, but if I cross the way of a 2998, which I prefer due to the shape of the hands, or a reasonable 2915... Who knows? Best, my friend. Nicolas

Nice find there. I wish I was as thorough in my study as you are.

 
 By: Ruckdee : May 10th, 2010-03:10
But then again I am not seriously into vintage pieces so I have the liberty to just go with whatever is available in the market. Anyway, don't forget to share with us when you find that Railmaster you need to complete the collection. All the best to that ... 

Hey! Congrats!

 
 By: dxboon : May 11th, 2010-08:19
Bravo, Nicolas! That's a very nice catch! It looks great on you, and IMO feels like it BELONGS in your collection. Sometimes, I feel people pick up new pieces because they should (and there's nothing wrong with that), but I think your posts leading up to ... 

That's the point, Daos...

 
 By: amanico : May 11th, 2010-13:32
I don't collect watches because I have to, but only because I love them, and I only collect watches I love. And, believe me, the task is hard.... Would you imagine, as a Collector of JLC watches, what would be my HELL if I had to pick all the watches? As ...