'Scientific' chapter ring and serrated crown on early Connies

Mar 29, 2015,12:23 PM
 

Once again I must defer to Desmond's extensive knowledge when responding. 

According to what Desmond wrote to me, the 'scientific' chapter ring was in fact a feature in some early Connies from the 1952 production slate. In fact the first Connie dial -- according to Omega Museum records -- was the scientific dial with the Omega logo on a cartouche. (BTW, he concurred that the dial on this watch is rare.)

As for the crown, Desmond's opinion (which I have heard from one other expert too) is that this one is a replacement. The most common crown on the early Connies was the decagonal (ie 10-sided) crown, but a few had a flatter round crown or a clover leaf shaped crown. Desmond believes this crown is a replacement because it was pretty much standard that if taken to an official service agent the crown would be replaced at service. 

However, having said this, the owner of the watch -- who has owned it from new -- claims he has never taken it to be serviced at an official Omega service center and that the crown had never been replaced. But seeing as he is an old man who has owned the watch for over 60 years, I will forgive him if his memory is not serving him well in this specific case.

Thanks to your friendly nudge ;-) I am one step closer to ordering an extract... (Desmond feels the same, in case you were wondering.) 

I will keep you posted, but if in the meantime anyone else wants to share their knowledge about any low-serial-number Connies they have come across, I would be grateful.

ghoti




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How early is this early Omega Constellation?

 
 By: ghoti : March 28th, 2015-09:04
Hi there, I recently saw an Omega Constellation reference 2648 calibre 352 in a solid 18k gold case with a very low movement serial number (12280xxx) and case number (11000xxx). Both these numbers are the lowest I have seen on a Connie, and I say this aft...  
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The one cal 352 in my files . . .

 
 By: Dr No : March 28th, 2015-13:53
. . . which, incidentally, doesn't belong to me, has a movement number of 12,334, xxx. You're on the trail of an early production piece; here's hoping it ends up in your collection! Cordially, Art
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There's no doubt it's very early, the question is how "very"...

 
 By: ghoti : March 29th, 2015-00:21
Thanks for sharing your info with me, Art. In the few weeks since I first saw the watch and started my research I've probably come across 50+ early-1950s Connie serial numbers, whether via enthusiasts such as yourself sharing with me or images of watches ... 
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The 1/5 second hash marks . . .

 
 By: Dr No : March 29th, 2015-11:16
. . . and serrated crown are also atypical attributes of this example. Please, cut to the chase and order the extract - utterly fascinating, this. (Assuming it's yours, of course!) Art
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'Scientific' chapter ring and serrated crown on early Connies

 
 By: ghoti : March 29th, 2015-12:23
Once again I must defer to Desmond's extensive knowledge when responding. According to what Desmond wrote to me, the 'scientific' chapter ring was in fact a feature in some early Connies from the 1952 production slate. In fact the first Connie dial -- acc... 
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Since the Centenary models were fitted . . .

 
 By: Dr No : March 29th, 2015-12:41
. . . with serrated crowns, there's at least an even chance the original owner is correct. Art
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You're probably right but...

 
 By: ghoti : March 29th, 2015-14:34
...I'm illiterate when it comes to Connie crowns so I bow before your experience. All I know about Connie crowns I learnt from Desmond, either directly or from the illuminating article he wrote on the subject. Definitely recommended, it can be found on hi... 
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Similar watch: 2 different crowns...

 
 By: MikiJ : April 2nd, 2015-05:55
The "Old Man" got this Connie with the same or at least similar crown. After some deliberation here a very generous member sent what Mickey believes to be the correct crown. The plot thickens ;-) ...  
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Tell Mickey that Desmond probably agrees with him

 
 By: ghoti : April 2nd, 2015-06:58
Lovely, MikiJ. Thanks! Your watch is indeed very similar to mine. May I ask what are the first five digits of your watch's movement serial number and case serial number? Thanks again, ghoti
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Thanks! [nt]

 
 By: ghoti : April 2nd, 2015-07:39
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Called my watch maker...

 
 By: MikiJ : April 2nd, 2015-07:42
He said he remembered it being cica 1954.
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"Time" will tell ;-) [nt]

 
 By: MikiJ : April 2nd, 2015-07:55
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